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07/27/12 at 18:48:53  
There are so many Tires on the market I thought a thread from Utah ATV riders would be a great Honest source for both good and bad tire recommendations.
I'm very unhappy with the stock tires on my ATV.

So light this topic up for good and bad !!!
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Reply #1 - 07/27/12 at 19:42:14  
Maxxis Big Horn Radials.....hard to beat!
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Reply #2 - 07/27/12 at 19:46:01  
Frank B wrote on 07/27/12 at 19:42:14:
Maxxis Big Horn Radials.....hard to beat!  



Is that the 2.0 maxxis radial ?
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Reply #3 - 07/27/12 at 21:10:40  
Avoid the version 2 Maxxis.

Stick with the original.
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Reply #4 - 07/28/12 at 20:04:36  
I have run both the Maxxis 1.5 (2 sets) and the 2.0 (one set).  The 1.5’s are indestructible!  When I got my new machine last year I had the dealer just put the Maxxis on it and I forgot to specify 1.5’s and I got 2.0’s.

The 1.5’s went something over 5,000 miles as set and the 2.0s went 3,400 miles.  The 2.0’s (in my opinion) are a softer and lighter tire and they ride very nice.  I kind of liked them but I also am very careful in the placement of my track so I rarely hit the side walls.  I never had any problems with them.

The dealer where I bought my machine wanted my opinion of a new tire he got in, Sedona Ripsaws or something like that.  I now have about 300 miles on them.  My opinion is still out on that brand.

They are a rougher riding tire and the tighter tread pattern has a tendency to pick up rocks and hurl them at the underside of my fenders or out in front of my ATV…sorta irritating….

Another thing, it seems they do not do as well on steep side hill as the Maxxis.  I have had the backend break loose and slide sideways where I believe the Maxxis would have not.

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Reply #5 - 07/29/12 at 09:25:18  
The Sedonas we put on our RZR wore out much faster than the OEM Maxxis. Very soft rubber no better traction.
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Reply #6 - 07/29/12 at 12:09:06  
@ SAR Rider, have you tried a larger size tire on your TRV ?
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Reply #7 - 07/29/12 at 19:34:02  
I talked about  the Bighorn 2's when they first came out as I bought a set   and had them shipped to me . I undid part of the packaging  and after I caught a glimpse of them I sent them back .

I was buying the original Bighorns and I would usually ruin a sidewall on at least one tire  of each set . I still have a pile of tires in the back of the shop  as I would end up buying a new set  as I don't like heading out with 43 plugs in my tire . ( Sorry Bill and Justin , I just can't do it ! )

I started buying Tusk tires from Rocky Mountain . They look just like BH's , are much , much cheaper and they have worked well for me .
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Reply #8 - 07/29/12 at 21:24:21  
Yogi911 wrote on 07/29/12 at 12:09:06:
@ SAR Rider, have you tried a larger size tire on your TRV ?


No.  I have stayed pretty much stock.
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Reply #9 - 07/30/12 at 09:45:03  
Bighorns have been the gold standard for ATV tires for a long time, but there are new kids on the block. Notably, the Bajacross, Pitbull Rockers and the Pitbull Growler, just to name a few. So many great choices......so little money....
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Reply #10 - 07/30/12 at 18:00:57  
I have 7000 miles on my 1st set so I switched them to a little less used atv.  Still have have at least 1/3 the tread left.  All miles were ridden in Utah and not on sand either.  That convinced me to stay with the Bighorns
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Reply #11 - 08/05/12 at 22:57:58  
Thanks for the help !!!
I went with Maxxis Big horn originals on mt AC TRV 700. I went a bit wider on the front from 8 to a 9. And on the bac from a 10 to a 12 and increased the size to a 26 from a 25.
I have no clearance issues an the AC Can push the bike as fast as I need.
They seem alot stiffer than stock. So I'm going to let 5 lbs out and decrease stiffness on the shocks...

Test ride was Saturday and I liked the way the stiffer / harder tire held up.
I also gained almost 1-1/2" clearance on undercarriage.

We are usually riding 2 so the clearance is great !!
I appreciate the help.
As long as the tires hold up I'll stick with Maxxis !!

Now I need to re calibrate my speedometer ....

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Reply #12 - 08/05/12 at 23:00:23  
Administrator ; I just realized this thread should probably be under tech talk... Move if needed.
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Reply #13 - 08/06/12 at 10:08:38  
For those who have Big Horns how much PSI do you put in your tires ?
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Reply #14 - 08/06/12 at 14:08:25  
Front:  5.5 lbs
Rear:   5.0 lbs

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Reply #15 - 08/06/12 at 15:55:39  
I thought 5-7 lbs was standard depending on terrain !!!!
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Reply #16 - 08/06/12 at 22:09:57  
5 lbs unless I am really loaded down, then its 6. They will ride better when you get a couple hundred miles on them. They last & last.  Smiley
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Reply #17 - 08/07/12 at 17:36:54  
That's interesting the tires (on the side wall) is 35 psi maximum inflation.  

So, does one follow the aTV recommendations or the Tire recommendations.
I see merit both directions.

I've looked at other forums and there is no clear guideline.
I tried to call my local AC dealer and he did not know.
He suggested that I split the difference and see how they ride.

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Reply #18 - 08/07/12 at 19:35:42  
You put more then Five pounds in the tires you will be ejected from your atv when you hit a bump.   Rolling on floor laughing
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Reply #19 - 08/07/12 at 20:16:12  
If you split the difference of 35 PSI, you will only do that once.  Roll Eyes Most people run around 5 lbs give or take a pound either way.
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Reply #20 - 08/07/12 at 21:15:51  
I will run as little as 3 lbs to around 6-7 lbs, depending on load and what kind of terrain I am riding in. Everything is a trade off of some kind. Very low pressure for slow rock crawling but with the possibility of popping a bead, around 5 lbs for general trail riding and up to 6 lbs or so in the sand to keep the sand out of the bead area. I don't think the 35 lbs is meant as a running pressure, but one not to be exceeded when seating the beads. I don't think all the OE wheels are rated for that much pressure.
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Reply #21 - 08/14/12 at 19:19:55  
I have a '11 TRV 700S with 14"x26" Bighorns and my wife has a '10 TRV 550S with 12"x26" Bighorns.  We run both at 5-6 psi depanding on what conditions we are riding in and have had great results.  Both machines handle the larger diameter with no problem.  The ride and performance is far better than the stock tires.
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Reply #22 - 08/15/12 at 07:40:34  
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You put more then Five pounds in the tires you will be ejected from your atv when you hit a bump.   Rolling on floor laughing


Or far worse. One of my first outings in the 5mile area, I didn't know any better and put 32psi in my tires. The first time I hit a rock, the tire detonated like a grenade - leaving me to ride in on a flat tire for a few miles.

Sadly, I've had plenty of practice since then on riding flat tires!  Grin
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How and why did this get moved to "Suggest a where to ride"??
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Reply #24 - 08/15/12 at 19:12:22  
BruteForce wrote on 08/15/12 at 16:14:51:
How and why did this get moved to "Suggest a where to ride"??

Thats where it started.
It hasn't been moved, read the comment up a ways where the person who started it mentioned he mistakenly put it in the wrong place. But I've learned if I move a thread before the conversation is done it dies then and there.
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Reply #25 - 10/21/12 at 11:30:56  
BUMP ...

I've ran ITP 589's & the GBC Dirt Tamer, both are a bias tire. They did well ... until I decided to try a radial.

I have ran the Interco Reptiles for a while ... great tire. They ride nice, do very well on the trail, in the mud, and the snow. I currently have them for sale if anyone is interested ...    Cool   .... but wanted to try something new ...

Just bought some Pit Bull Growlers. Only have ridden on these tires for a short time but I really like them so far.

I usually run 3 to 3.5psi in my tires ... but I also have beadlocks, cause once I slid into a big rock snow riding & knocked a tire off the bead of a regular rim. That was a SOB getting the bead to re-seat so I could "Ride" the 20 miles back to the truck instead of walk.    Roll Eyes

With the Pit Bulls, I'm running between 3 & 4 psi depending on where I'm riding & how rough the terrain is.

When the wife rides on the back of the bike, I up the air pressure to about 4.5 psi. Keeping the ride soft helps with her hips (3 replacements & sciatic nerve issues) ... but, I took her out a few days ago & I think her riding days are over.    :'(


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Reply #26 - 11/06/12 at 11:05:35  
My first foray into aftermarket rubber was last year when I hauled my 09 Honda Rincon all the way to Utah with the OEM front tires pretty-much shredded.  

In the middle of a 10-day ATV camping ride I dropped down into Jorgensons for new tires.  They recommended the Maxxis Bighorns and I went with them.  Unbelievable improvement in traction and ground clearance.  Those still wondering if there's a difference - there really is.  

However, this year I rode the 2012 Mountain Man Marathon on my 2012 Outlander XP, which came "stock" with aftermarket Carlisle ACT tires.  They didn't grip near as well as the Bighorns on my Rincon, especially braking down steep hills.

The day after the MMM ride I had Big O put a set of original Bighorns on the Outlander and immediatly noticed better traction braking and accelerating.  I also got more ground clearance as the Bighorns have a bit more profile than the ACT's.

Here's what I learned:

1) OEM tires tend to be the least effective tires availble.
2) Aftermarket All-terrain/Trail tires are not all created equally
3) The Maxxis Bighorn is very popular in Utah for very good reason
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Reply #27 - 11/26/13 at 13:20:22  
I'm looking at the GBC Grim Reaper Radial Reviews seem to applaud this tire, but they could be biased coming from online stores. Has anybody had a personal experience with these? They look stout enough, and would fit my Zuki Quad nicely.

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Reply #28 - 11/26/13 at 17:24:24  
hi
here in QUÉBEC PROVINCE, CANADA, a lot of ATV riders use
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when we go on rockie terrain we run at 10 psi rear and 7 psi front.
sand or mud 5 psi f and rear.
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Reply #29 - 11/27/13 at 10:20:46  
SlickRock wrote on 11/26/13 at 13:20:22:
I'm looking at the GBC Grim Reaper Radial Reviews seem to applaud this tire, but they could be biased coming from online stores. Has anybody had a personal experience with these? They look stout enough, and would fit my Zuki Quad nicely.

Thanks
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My father has run the GBC Grim Reaper on his King Quad for the last 2.5 years (maybe closer to 3). Never had a leak/puncture or any other trouble with them. I'm not sure exactly how many miles he has on them at this point, but they look good and should last several more years with as much tread as they still have.
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Reply #30 - 11/27/13 at 20:54:53  
I've got about 2500 miles on my STI Black Diamond XTR's now and have really been happy with them.  I think they are equal to Bighorns in every category, and better than the bighorns in mud and snow.  The tread depth on them is 1 1/8" so there's lots of life in them.  Mine are down to about 3/4" after 2500 miles and I rode on lots of shale and slick rock this year.  Another plus: they are DOT approved.

I would also like to try some Sedona Ripsaw RT's or maybe even some Maxxis Viprs.
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Reply #31 - 12/02/13 at 08:52:55  
Black Diamonds may be fine on a 12" rim, but if you have 14's, they are junk. The short sidewalls (these also run very small in size) are extremely stiff, and any pressure above 3 psi will rattle your teeth right out of your head. 3 psi will not stay on the rim very long. I have no experience with the 12" BD's, so maybe these are not issues for them.
My all around favorite is still the original Bighorn. I have yet to see or use a tire that works as well in ALL conditions that you encounter out on the trails riding year round.
I really like the Pitbull Rockers and thought they were the answer to Bighorns. They seemed to do everything the BH's do, and do it better. Then I took them out to Moab. Rockers and slick rock don't mix very well. They would slip and spin in spots where the Bighorns walked right up. Not a good feeling when you lose traction. Now when I head out there, the BH's go back on for the trip. Slick rock aside, the Rockers will out perform the Bighorns. The other downside to the PB's is the huge price tag that comes with the set. $700+ for a set of atv tires is a tough pill to swallow.
My final answer would be, the original Bighorns are still king of the hill when it comes to a great, do everything, atv tire that you don't need a bank loan to afford.
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Reply #32 - 12/02/13 at 11:05:53  
Bob wrote on 12/02/13 at 08:52:55:
Black Diamonds may be fine on a 12" rim, but if you have 14's, they are junk. The short sidewalls (these also run very small in size) are extremely stiff, and any pressure above 3 psi will rattle your teeth right out of your head. 3 psi will not stay on the rim very long. I have no experience with the 12" BD's, so maybe these are not issues for them.
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No issues like that at all with 12" BD's.  The rough ride with 14" BD's is not due to the BD's design, it's due to the WHEEL size.  A big wheel with a short tire is never going to ride as cushy as a smaller wheel with the same tire.  And why would you want to put the edge of your wheel closer to the road and all the rocks that live there anyway? I HATE the 14" wheel trend in atv's.  It's almost as bad as the 18" wheel trend in trucks!

I heard all the rumors that you had to run BD's at 2 psi or 3 psi to get the best ride.  I tried it.  Didn't like it.  I run my rears at 6.5 psi and fronts at 5.5 psi and they work great.  And if I come around a corner in a desert wash and find an unavoidable clay puddle, I don't have to worry like I did with BH's! Shocked  The BH are a good tire no doubt, but mud ain't their cup of tea.  Not to mention that they are so common that I've actually gotten sick of seeing them.  To me, they are like seeing another silver Honda Civic rolling down the highway.  There's got to be other models and other colors in the world aren't there?
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Reply #33 - 12/02/13 at 11:47:42  
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Bob wrote on 12/02/13 at 08:52:55:
Black Diamonds may be fine on a 12" rim, but if you have 14's, they are junk. The short sidewalls (these also run very small in size) are extremely stiff, and any pressure above 3 psi will rattle your teeth right out of your head. 3 psi will not stay on the rim very long. I have no experience with the 12" BD's, so maybe these are not issues for them.
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No issues like that at all with 12" BD's.  The rough ride with 14" BD's is not due to the BD's design, it's due to the WHEEL size.  A big wheel with a short tire is never going to ride as cushy as a smaller wheel with the same tire.  And why would you want to put the edge of your wheel closer to the road and all the rocks that live there anyway? I HATE the 14" wheel trend in atv's.  It's almost as bad as the 18" wheel trend in trucks!

I heard all the rumors that you had to run BD's at 2 psi or 3 psi to get the best ride.  I tried it.  Didn't like it.  I run my rears at 6.5 psi and fronts at 5.5 psi and they work great.  And if I come around a corner in a desert wash and find an unavoidable clay puddle, I don't have to worry like I did with BH's! Shocked  The BH are a good tire no doubt, but mud ain't their cup of tea.  Not to mention that they are so common that I've actually gotten sick of seeing them.  To me, they are like seeing another silver Honda Civic rolling down the highway.  There's got to be other models and other colors in the world aren't there?

Yes and no. I agree about disliking 14" wheels on atv's. Low profile tires do not mix with off roading. Unfortunately, owning an XP, there is no option. That has always been my biggest complaint about this machine. The only way to combat that issue will be to jump up to a 27" or 28" tire. 28 would be best, but you are very limited on tire choices at that size. Not to mention the increased price.

As for the rough ride on the 14" BD's, it is because of the tire design. I can say this as a fact because my XP with either Bighorns or Rockers, both set at 6 psi, ride smoother than my buddies XP with Black Diamonds, set at 2 1/2 - 3 psi. Sounds like it is a trait just with the 14". He sold them after just a month (and three flats) and went back to Bighorns.
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He sold them after just a month (and three flats) and went back to Bighorns.



I'd be willing to bet that his three flats were not due to punctures.  More than likely, he had them mounted at a "regular" tire dealer and they didn't know how to seat an atv tire bead, and also probably didn't use any sealant around both rims.  Seen it done a hundred times and then the guy blames the tire like it's their fault.
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Reply #35 - 12/02/13 at 20:38:21  
Bighorns..

And on the 14" comments, I totally agree. New BigHorns + 14" ITP wheels = side wheel carnage. Seems I'm hitting every rock and just tearing up the outer edge on my new wheels!  Sad

I never had that problem with my 12" ITP wheels and BigHorns.
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Reply #36 - 12/02/13 at 21:03:47  
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Bob wrote on 12/02/13 at 11:47:42:
He sold them after just a month (and three flats) and went back to Bighorns.



I'd be willing to bet that his three flats were not due to punctures.  More than likely, he had them mounted at a "regular" tire dealer and they didn't know how to seat an atv tire bead, and also probably didn't use any sealant around both rims.  Seen it done a hundred times and then the guy blames the tire like it's their fault.

I'm afraid you would lose that bet my friend. And, if you have to use a sealant on the bead of new tires on nearly new wheels, that is a problem as well. Sometimes it is the tires fault.
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Reply #37 - 12/03/13 at 10:53:35  
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And, if you have to use a sealant on the bead of new tires on nearly new wheels, that is a problem as well. Sometimes it is the tires fault.



What makes you say that?  Using sealant is what should be done on every tire and every wheel. It's tire mounting 101.
 
Ah, forget it. It's obvious that "your buddy" had a set of 14" lemons and you've got an unusually strong vendetta against them now (yeah, I've seen all your posts on all the other forums trying to talk guys out of BD's like you've got stock in Maxxis or something).  Fine.  Buy your BH and be happy.  I surely won't base my whole opinion of a tire off of one guy's secondhand experience with them no matter how many places he trash talks them.  Especially when I've had 2500 miles of trouble free and excellent performance with them.  I'd buy them again in a heartbeat.
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You're really something. Just never quit and refuse to admit you may be wrong about something. Your tire mounting 101 is BS, as is most everything else you say. I don't recall having ever said anything bad about your 12" BD's here, or on any other forum. Big difference between the 12" and 14". Until you've owned something, or been around something and have some experience with it, sometimes it's best to just keep quiet. If ignorance truly is bliss, then you must be one happy boy. So go ahead and get in your last word that you have to have. We've all seen it before.
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Bob wrote on 12/03/13 at 13:56:10:
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You're really something. Just never quit and refuse to admit you may be wrong about something. Your tire mounting 101 is BS, as is most everything else you say. I don't recall having ever said anything bad about your 12" BD's here, or on any other forum. Big difference between the 12" and 14". Until you've owned something, or been around something and have some experience with it, sometimes it's best to just keep quiet. If ignorance truly is bliss, then you must be one happy boy. So go ahead and get in your last word that you have to have. We've all seen it before.



I see you delve into personal attacks yet again.  Is that all you can do? All I talk about is tires and how I like them and you stoop to personal attacks whenever someone disagrees with you.  
And it's real interesting how you say you can't recall saying anything about 12" BD's here or anywhere......what about 14's then?  Would you like me to list the links here?  I'd be more than happy to.
 
I can't believe you even went into the "experience" argument.  Lets see, who is it who's actually OWNED a set of BD's and WHO HASN'T????  Your logic is truly bewildering. Shocked Roll Eyes  I know it's legal now where you live, but maybe you should cut back just a bit!
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I think the PB Rockers look awesome and seem way capable. I have a riding friend that sports them and they're quite capable tires. In some instances, his tires are much better than my BigHorns, due to the huge lugs.. in others, they're a problem.

No losers, no winners. Lets move on.. nothing to see here.

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Ah, the voice of reason. Good to hear from someone who agrees that there is no perfect tire or perfect tire for all conditions
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I think the PB Rockers look awesome and seem way capable. I have a riding friend that sports them and they're quite capable tires. .


I don't know if I'd buy those PB's Brute.  Somebody here has not had good luck with them.  Click on the photobucket links:

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Looks great. I would probably run about 7 psi in them, and for sure no less than 6 psi. That is only because of the 14" wheels. You are lacking sidewall and prone to pinch flats at lower pressures. I learned this the hard way by destroying two Pitbull Rockers on the front of mine. (actually the right front, two different times) An expensive lesson!  Embarrassed  On my wife's 500 with 12" wheels, I never run more than 5 psi in her 26" Bighorns. It also looks like your coolant bottle needs topped off.

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So this is a $175 tire that is a radial tire that won't allow 5 psi or less on a 14" wheel without letting the rim slice through the sidewall apparently. But it's all ok and they're worth the extra cash because it's not one of those stupid BD pieces of junk.Wink  
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I will try one last time to contribute to this discussion in a way that hopefully everyone will be able to comprehend. I am talking about 14” wheels and tires. Not comparing them to 12’s in any way, shape or form. 14” rims create challenges when it comes to atv tires. If you don’t have them, some won’t understand. While it doesn’t seem like a big deal at first, once you have them and ride with them it is easy to see and feel the differences. The biggest thing is air pressure. Where 4-5 psi is usually about perfect with a 12” wheel, someone was kind enough to repost why that pressure doesn’t work well with 14’s. Saved me the trouble of having to look for it. Doesn’t matter what tire you are running when it pinches against a rock, the rock wins. The Pitbulls are said to have one of the sturdiest sidewalls, and we can see what happened, even to them. After adjusting to 7 psi, it seems to not be an issue anymore, but you do sacrifice a bit in the ride. Some tires will ride a little better at 7 psi than others due to the ply rating and sidewall construction. I have ridden on many different makes of tires, either on my atv or my buddies XP, and have been able to compare the ride first hand by switching rides out on the trail. The difference in ride quality can be huge even between tires marked the same size, on basically identical machines, riding the same trail. Even after adjusting air pressures down, some just won’t ride as well. Like I demonstrated in the repost above, adjusting the pressure down with 14” rims does not bode well for the tires.
I have ridden on many different tires, and have posted my thoughts on them on many different forums. Since I couldn’t care less what tire anyone buys, and since I buy mine just the same as the next guy, I post my opinions of them, good, bad or otherwise. Some get their feelings hurt if I don’t care for a particular tire that they happen to like. It happens. We don’t all like the same things. Get over it and move on. Someone mentioned that I spoke poorly of 12” Black Diamonds. I don’t believe that to be true as I have never ridden on them. If you can repost where I said that, I will be happy to admit I mis-spoke.
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Reply #44 - 12/04/13 at 10:22:59  
I will respond to Bob's reasonable post above IF he will keep his replies purely conversational and not go into personal attacks.  Fair enough?

Ok, what we'd all like to know is why is it that we all can agree that 14" wheels suck and cause problems for every tire, but somehow, only the BD's get called "junk" for doing the same thing every tire seems to do?  

It was offered that they ride worse at high psi. OK, but that's a very general description.  I have no doubt that they would ride rougher at high psi because they have their lugs farther apart than some of the more common road tires.  But at the same time, that's what makes them so much better than the venerable Bighorn tire when it comes to mud, snow, and sand.  Tires are very good demonstrators of the world of trade-offs!  To get one thing, often something else has to be taken away.

Secondly, despite popular belief, BH's do go flat sometimes.  Last month, while I was out looking for desert bighorn sheep (irony I know), the hunter's cousin had a flat tire on a brand new set of Bighorns.  It was not a puncture flat or a bead flat, but rather an entire tread lug tore off and left us with unrepairable flat about 30 miles from Page, AZ.  Did I start trashtalking BH because of one flat? No.  It was obviously a defect in the rubber compound that no one could have predicted or caught beforehand.  It happens to every tire company at one point or another.  You can't sum up the entire company based on their lemons or you would never buy a tire ever again!  
My uncle works for a very big, national tire company.  In his job, he sees just about every scenario you can think of.  Tires do not have perfect consistency.  There are some good lots and some bad lots.  When there's a problem, he gets to take the tire back and make a determination of misuse or defectiveness.  The latter happens more often than one might think.  Buying a tire, just like many other purchases (including the atv you bought!), is a total crap shoot.  Sad to say but it's true.  Hopefully, you've bought a tire from a company that will admit and stand by their product if it's deemed defective.  As far as Maxxis and STI go, I've heard of nothing but excellent customer service with both companies.  So I wouldn't hesitate to buy from either.  I have NO experience with Pitbull though.  I can only hope that for the extra $$ they charge, that they would have a fantastic customer service dept.

And lastly, tire sealant IS important.  You can go to any tire shop in the world and you will see two buckets of gooey stuff next to every tire mounting machine they have.  The white stuff is rim grease which aids in the tire mounting process and insures that the rubber will not catch and rip during installation.  The second gooey stuff is black.  It's the rim sealant.  It helps seal the bead so the tire is less likely to have slow leaks while flexing or sitting.  This is kinda important on ATV tires--especially if they are stiff-walled radials.  Those tires are small in size, run at low pressure, and are designed to flex over rough terrain more than a car tire ever would.  To save money, some tire shops teach their techs to only apply sealant if the customer asks for it.  That is why some folks have never heard of it or don't think it's important.  Furthermore, most tire shops do not mount a high volume of atv tires.  Some of the techs seat and treat atv tires like regular tires because they have not been taught the proper way to do a small tire.  It is to your benefit as an atv rider to specifically ask for the sealant to be applied, and to both sides too.  The sealant is usually free (included in the mounting cost) and they order it by the bucket so don't be afraid to ask for what you paid for!  It might just save you the hassle of always having a tire that seems to go low all the time.

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Reply #45 - 12/04/13 at 12:46:27  
First this is not aimed at anyone in particular.... So if it offends anyone then, well, maybe it hits home a little to true...

My old man used to tell me opinions are like farts, everyone has them and no one thinks theirs stink, but the more you try to push yours in the other guys face, the more intensely they will stink to him.

Verifiable facts are better than opinions and the truth is no one has done a truly verifiable ATV tire test or comparison. And as one person here said the terrain and conditions here in Utah vary so greatly how could you get the "Perfect" tire. All we can hope for is a good compromise so they work better than most across all those conditions and multitude of terrains.
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Agreed, FA.

This is akin to the Ford-Ram-Chev/GMC arguments. Everyone has a differing opinion based on the vehicle THEY drive. Pointless.
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Agreed, FA.

This is akin to the Ford-Ram-Chev/GMC arguments. Everyone has a differing opinion based on the vehicle THEY drive. Pointless.



I use to be a Chev guy until they and chrysler took government bail out money now I drive a Ford. My little one man protest. I'm sure GM is hurting because of it.  

Not intending to highjack the thread just lighten the mood.

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TwinTop wrote on 12/04/13 at 23:01:30:
BruteForce wrote on 12/04/13 at 15:29:29:
Agreed, FA.

This is akin to the Ford-Ram-Chev/GMC arguments. Everyone has a differing opinion based on the vehicle THEY drive. Pointless.



I use to be a Chev guy until they and chrysler took government bail out money now I drive a Ford. My little one man protest. I'm sure GM is hurting because of it.  

Not intending to highjack the thread just lighten the mood.

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Hijack away.. the thread was going nowhere anyway. You liking that Ford? I'm quite impressed with the new 6.7L Fords. Are they really twin turbo? I wish I could get my Cummins engine in a Ford Chassis!  Smiley
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the truth is no one has done a truly verifiable ATV tire test or comparison.



That is true.  A really scientific test has never been done to my knowledge.  However, Doug Meyer from ATVTV has done actual riding condition tests on more tires than probably any 10 guys on this site combined.  One can see his results on his Youtube channel.  If one is considering buying a new tire, or switching to another tire, it wouldn't be a bad idea to see what he has to say.  His opinion is just another fart I suppose, but I don't mind smelling it if I know it comes from a bit of experience. Wink
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